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Elizabeth Lutz

Liz Lutz, on the right, with Marlene Bayne

Name: Elizabeth Lutz

Date: July 25, 2018

Circumstance: Phone call. Ms. Lutz was at her home in Hillsborough, North Carolina. I called from Spanish Fort, Alabama.

Age at time of call: 84 years old

Recording: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kkA3aM6IpslbuuYzxYwvqP83Vph9B6dm/view?usp=sharing

Details: Liz Lutz was the first interviewee I talked with in-depth during my conversation. Perhaps unfairly to the rest of the people in the project, she set expectations sky-high for the amount of depth and fun, personal narratives she provided me.

Note: During our conversation, Ms. Lutz also used a device that transcribed my words as I spoke so that she could hear me. Because of this, there were sometimes delays in the our conversation..

Liz Lutz (LL) and Trent Kannegieter (TK)

Liz Lutz (LL): Is this Trent? Hi, this is Liz.

Trent Kannegieter (TK): Thank you so much for being willing to talk with me today. I guess, to start off, I would love to know some basics about you. Where you were born? Your general background? Anything you think is pertinent.

LL: Are you taping me? At some point I want to know how you got interested in Venezuela.

TK: I’m happy to do that. I’m a history student at Yale University. One of my professors is really involved in petro-states, actually in the Middle East. She became a great mentor to me, she directed me to use my Spanish to study petro-states; the intersection of Latin America and petro-states was pretty clearly Venezuela. (Switching to caption phone. Conversation and logistics not recorded.) Professor’s research has studied how resources, particularly oil and other fossil fuels, have impacted state formation over time. She recommended Tinker-Salas’ book, and I ended up doing a research project on the development of Venezuelan education. This led me to looking at different influences in Venezuela’s history, particularly U.S. corporate influence and the dialogue between our two countries. This is something that is understudied, and I find fascinating. I did